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MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

Hoyacane1620 said:


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CaneInHeelCountry said:
Totally disagree.

Part of what has made CFB great is that small programs can make it big. Cinderella stories are real. ****, prior to ‘83, Miami was on the lower end of what would now be considered FBS teams. Same for schools like Boise State and TCU and Kansas State. That’s not to mention all the directional schools like UCF, USF, East Carolina, etc.

A 130-team FBS gives those underdogs a chance to compete with, potentially beat, and join the elite teams.

Cutting that in half to form some sort of mega-conference of elite teams totally kills any hope that lower-rung teams will ever advance.
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My late father had the best litmus test for how people view college football:

If you had the power, would you move CFB one step closer to high school football, or one step closer to the NFL?

I would move it two steps closer to HS, from what it is now at least.
 
Themadcane said:
I hope FSU and Clemson go to the Big now and then we can go to the SEC. I originally wanted to go to the Big but I wouldn’t be upset to be in the SEC, definitely think there are some benefits- even with a little less $$

If we get left out of both it will be a sadder day than when JJ left for Dallas.
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Much better chance of UM to the Big if FSU / Clemson go SEC. SEC doesn't want Miami period.
 
DamnLiesAndStatistics said:
ESPN refusing to do anything to help the ACC will kill the schools that make it a relevant conference. If ESPN renegotiated in a way to make top schools whole (within x $ of SEC), they could save the conference. If they choose not too, which theyre not obligated to, there'll either be an exodus or theyll let the talent drain from the conference like a vampire sucking out the blood, and lose any value the asset currently has.
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Perhaps for several reasons it would be in ESPN's interest if the ACC simply disbanded and 5 or 6 of the schools landed with one of the super conferences.
 
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CaneInHeelCountry said:
Totally disagree.

Part of what has made CFB great is that small programs can make it big. Cinderella stories are real. ****, prior to ‘83, Miami was on the lower end of what would now be considered FBS teams. Same for schools like Boise State and TCU and Kansas State. That’s not to mention all the directional schools like UCF, USF, East Carolina, etc.

A 130-team FBS gives those underdogs a chance to compete with, potentially beat, and join the elite teams.

Cutting that in half to form some sort of mega-conference of elite teams totally kills any hope that lower-rung teams will ever advance.
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Except that doesn't happen anymore. The game has changed a lot in the last 45 years. Small schools having breakthrough seasons are more novelty acts today. Does anyone really believe that UCF won the national championship? Look at the huge talent gap when TCU played Georgia in the title game. It wasn't even close. I look at the schedules for P5 programs and most of them have at least three if not more absolute punching bags on them. Does anyone want to actually watch us play Miami Ohio, Bethune Cookman or Temple? Or would you rather see three Big 10 teams in those spots. Yes competition would be harder and fewer teams would have really great records at the end of the season but the overall football would be 10 times better than what we get today.

Now the only thing that really makes sense in terms of giving other schools a shot would be system like the Euro soccer leagues where weaker teams at the top level get demoted and the best teams at the lower level get promoted. The power 5 bottom feeder programs probably wouldn't like that because they wouldn't get the huge TV contract money anymore but it's probably the most fair way to do things. I don't want to see anymore watered down football.
 
Rickd said:
Much better chance of UM to the Big if FSU / Clemson go SEC. SEC doesn't want Miami period.
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I still think there might be an outside chance that ESPN might want Miami if FSU/Clemson goes to BIG. Of course it depends on how things go with the ACC.
 
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DTP said:
Except that doesn't happen anymore. The game has changed a lot in the last 45 years. Small schools having breakthrough seasons are more novelty acts today. Does anyone really believe that UCF won the national championship? Look at the huge talent gap when TCU played Georgia in the title game. It wasn't even close. I look at the schedules for P5 programs and most of them have at least three if not more absolute punching bags on them. Does anyone want to actually watch us play Miami Ohio, Bethune Cookman or Temple? Or would you rather see three Big 10 teams in those spots. Yes competition would be harder and fewer teams would have really great records at the end of the season but the overall football would be 10 times better than what we get today.

Now the only thing that really makes sense in terms of giving other schools a shot would be system like the Euro soccer leagues where weaker teams at the top level get demoted and the best teams at the lower level get promoted. The power 5 bottom feeder programs probably wouldn't like that because they wouldn't get the huge TV contract money anymore but it's probably the most fair way to do things. I don't want to see anymore watered down football.
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Whether or not UCF won the natty and regardless of the final score of the TCU Georgia game, those programs did compete at the highest level. And they competed at that level more recently (and in TCU’s case, more consistently) than UM has in a long time.

By your rationale, we should be relegated down to the lower division.
 
IndayArtHauz said:
My late father had the best litmus test for how people view college football:

If you had the power, would you move CFB one step closer to high school football, or one step closer to the NFL?

I would move it two steps closer to HS, from what it is now at least.
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While I agree in sentiment I can’t agree in practicality.

I loved high school football but football is a dangerous game and a lot of guys playing D1 will get CTE from playing it while everyone is profiting off their risk and ability.

Players should be able to get paid and should be allowed to transfer IMO.

These kids have gotten taken advantage of for too long.
 
As the industry and consumer behavior continues to shift, the TV/media companies have a limited time window to figure out a way to

(1) make streaming profitable, while incorporating live events
-or-
(2) keep linear TV profitable
-or-
(3) come up with sustainable, profitable alternatives

If they haven't figured it out in the next 5 years, you're going to see more consolidation at the next round of conference TV deals, and it will bleed even more into pro sports, as we've started to see with the collapse of the Regional Sports Networks broadcast model.

This op-ed is almost 3 years old, but still relevant today: One Clear Casualty of the Streaming Wars: Profit
 
CaneInHeelCountry said:
Totally disagree.

Part of what has made CFB great is that small programs can make it big. Cinderella stories are real. ****, prior to ‘83, Miami was on the lower end of what would now be considered FBS teams. Same for schools like Boise State and TCU and Kansas State. That’s not to mention all the directional schools like UCF, USF, East Carolina, etc.

A 130-team FBS gives those underdogs a chance to compete with, potentially beat, and join the elite teams.

Cutting that in half to form some sort of mega-conference of elite teams totally kills any hope that lower-rung teams will ever advance.
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We had been good to very good in the years before. In 1980 we went 9-3 and won the Peach Bowl. 1981 we were on probation, and went 9-2, playing 8 top 20 ranked teams, losing to 14 Texas and 13 Miss St, both on the road. This was a seriously good team. 1982 we went 7-4, losing 3 games by a combined 6 points, all 3 on the road. The next year we won it all.
 
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JD4 said:
While I agree in sentiment I can’t agree in practicality.

I loved high school football but football is a dangerous game and a lot of guys playing D1 will get CTE from playing it while everyone is profiting off their risk and ability.

Players should be able to get paid and should be allowed to transfer IMO.

These kids have gotten taken advantage of for too long.
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I understand this takeaway from what I said (because it was intentionally simple), but the litmus only applies to the cultural/regional ties of the individual programs and conferences vs the professional nationalization of the NFL. Kids being paid is not the issue it’s meant to highlight, (I agree they should be paid).
 
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Yoyo82 said:
do you believe there's a world out there where Vandy and Indiana thrive in college football and Miami doesn't?

Miami is a football brand.. absolutely a top 20 brand and some could argue top 10 STILL... the fact that it's that close even after 20 years of irrelevancy speaks to the value of the Miami BRAND...

they'll find a home because Miami football is a brand that adds value... while there are still a dozen-ish brands between the B1G and SEC that detract/reduce value...
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I would say that it's a possibility for Indiana or Vandy if I'm being honest. Vandy has absolutely loaded alumni base and Indiana is one of the largest. The way things stand now, basically pay for play. If those two get their NIL deals on order yes they would thrive while we wouldn't.

It's a different world today. We aren't the Miami of old and generally are written off by most programs. Nobody fears us anymore, we're basic ******* until we prove otherwise. People recognize out brand, but it isn't top 20, let alone top 10. We rank 26th. For comparisons sake, UF is 6th and FSU is 8th.
 
canesbaby said:
gotta admit that I'm baffled by the Stanford decision. What better options could they have at this point? are they really putting their eggs in the ACC basket?
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I doubt it’s true. If you look at this guy’s history he throws out a lot of weird “rumors” that never come to fruition.
 
BIG change in tune of the people I talk to and their outlook for Miami in all of this in the last week. Originally it appeared Miami was leading the pack in leaving the ACC. Also, I was told months ago by 1 person that if the B1G shifted to Oregon and Washington it would put the nail in Miami's coffin and right around then it all changed. I don't know why that is or why that was the caveat.

I'm very concerned.

Edit: Not even the last week. The last 3 days
 
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