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Empirical Cane

Empirical Cane

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There has been a ton of discussion on how important 2020 class will be for Miami. While my opinion has been oft stated, I think there is a key element that has been missing overall.

Contribution timeline.

2020 recruits, to a large degree, will contribute in practice, ST, etc. The rare individual will make a 1 or 2 deep impact.

Big reason for even less expectations next season. Unless Miami gets significant transfer portal help, expect fewer Ws in 2020 than the disaster that was 2019.
 
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Thank you!

Anyone whose been following this team closely knows how this goes.

It’s the same song and dance.

Randy brought in the #1 class and those guys got pushed around year one we saw no immediate results. It doesn’t work that way. So we know how this goes.

Year 0: these existing players are the problem.

Year 1: we are too young relying on under classmen

Year 2: these guys are coming together they gotta get a little older. They are the foundation.

Year 3: we are counting on guys to take a big jump now that they are the leaders of the team.

Year 4: the next crop will be the core of the group
Who turns this program around.

Corch fired back to year 0.
 
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Empirical Cane said:
There has been a ton of discussion on how important 2020 class will be for Miami. While my opinion has been oft stated, I think there is a key element that has been missing overall.

Contribution timeline.

2020 recruits, to a large degree, will contribute in practice, ST, etc. The rare individual will make a 1 or 2 deep impact.

Big reason for even less expectations next season. Unless Miami gets significant transfer portal help, expect fewer Ws in 2020 than the disaster that was 2019.
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Please share this with Manny, I don’t think he has realized this as he continues to **** his pants about the 2020 class being the “change we need”
 
2017 class #12, 2018 class #8. Thought to be good classes. 2019 class sucked. Still should have been enough talent on this team to beat FIU, Ga TEch, Duke-without much of a problem. Do not not know how the 20 class will finish.

Diaz doesn’t know what he is doing. Now the Canes are in can’t fire him mode and are stuck. Do not trust him developing players, calling the right schemes...
 
Empirical Cane said:
There has been a ton of discussion on how important 2020 class will be for Miami. While my opinion has been oft stated, I think there is a key element that has been missing overall.

Contribution timeline.

2020 recruits, to a large degree, will contribute in practice, ST, etc. The rare individual will make a 1 or 2 deep impact.

Big reason for even less expectations next season. Unless Miami gets significant transfer portal help, expect fewer Ws in 2020 than the disaster that was 2019.
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Lol, you guys are classic
 
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Cane6 said:
Please share this with Manny, I don’t think he has realized this as he continues to **** his pants about the 2020 class being the “change we need”
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2020 class is part of the calvary for Miami's program.

People just need to be clear that on the field, they very likely won't show up until 2021/2022 season.

That's why missing on critical units (OL and DL) can be critical when a squad tries to "reload". If Miami focuses on nothing else, it needs to be recruiting and building the #1 OL amd DL units.

EVERTHING flows from these two functions. Everything.

The coaches and fans are calling for more ammo, and the box is empty.
 
Empirical Cane said:
There has been a ton of discussion on how important 2020 class will be for Miami. While my opinion has been oft stated, I think there is a key element that has been missing overall.

Contribution timeline.

2020 recruits, to a large degree, will contribute in practice, ST, etc. The rare individual will make a 1 or 2 deep impact.

Big reason for even less expectations next season. Unless Miami gets significant transfer portal help, expect fewer Ws in 2020 than the disaster that was 2019.
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Except that our problem is under execution not lack of talent. There's no reason the guy's we'll have can't win 9 next year.
 
S.CarolinaCane said:
Lol, you guys are classic
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kryptonite said:
Except that our problem is under execution not lack of talent. There's no reason the guy's we'll have can't win 9 next year.
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There's an OL unit and HC full of reasons why Miami won't come close to sniffing 9 Ws next season.

I want to be very, very wrong on this.

Miami starts first four games at 2-2 or 1-3.

Back side of schedule maybe 1 win, good chance at all Ls.
 
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There's an OL unit and HC full of reasons why Miami won't come close to sniffing 9 Ws next season.

I want to be very, very wrong on this.

Miami starts first four games at 2-2 or 1-3.

Back side of schedule maybe 1 win, good chance at all Ls.
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I think we'll do a little better than that, but I'd be shocked by 8+ wins.

I'm just saying first things first. Before we worry too much about players, let's have a staff that can get the most out of those players. The way the staff coached this year, better players weren't going to do much for us.
 
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We've been hearing this excuse forever. I thought Shaq and Pinckney's class was suppose to be the ones that brought the old Miami back?

When do those in leadership roles (coaches) start being accountable ? Diaz talks about changing the culture like he wasnt apart of the previous staff!

I think we have some talented recruits coming in. But expecting 18 year olds to lead a team hasnt worked before. Why dont we try another approach... get a qualified staff that commands respect! Start actually accepting responsibility and I'm sure the players will follow.
 
2020 won't be the problem because the bulk of our talent is from the 2017/2018 classes, and they'll be older and more experienced.

LB will probably take a step back, WR is probably about the same. All other positions should be better and deeper.

The problem is no one from the 2019 class really pushed for playing time outside of Zion. If that happens again with the 2020 class, there's going to be a drop-off beyond 2020 from where we already are.

If the 17/18 guys are winning 6-7 games a year, and they're not getting much competition from the 19/20 guys, then that's not a good sign.
 
Like this year, we will win some games that some on this board lost "easy money" on.
We will also lose some games that we should win.

The '19 class was light, but there are 5 or 6 guys I expect to have an impact along with transfers Bolden and Phillips(?).
The O-line can't be any worse. I'm hoping (we all are hoping) a change in offensive philosophy will help there.
With most of the starters returning across the board, some improvement has to be there due to experience.

Also, I want to see how this team plays in a couple of weeks. Regardless of opponent.

With that, and assuming some of our opponents will be better, and some worse (we'll see next spring), I see a minimum of 5 wins at home and 1 on the road. That's my low end.
There's nothing we can draw from at this time that says any more than 8 wins. That's my high end.

Of course, this is subject to change next August when we have something a little more tangible to go by.
 
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