Article: Staggering stat bodes well for Miami (Fla.)

[rok]

Coming off consecutive disappointing seasons that featured numerous losses against average teams, there's one stat that, on the surface, may not seem beneficial.

However, considering how toxic the climate has been since losing to Pitt in 2017 -- to the tune of a 13-16 record since Thanksgiving weekend of that year -- perhaps it's encouraging that just 30 players have been on campus for two or more seasons.

The majority of the team arrived since Diaz assumed control and perhaps have not been jaded yet.

Of the rest, there are several among the 30 who have performed well despite the middling overall level of play from the team (offense) since 2017.

While not likely, it's possible that there's still time for Diaz to diagnose and work toward fixing the culture that's doomed this program for too long.

The dirty 30:

QB Perry
RB Harris, Burns
FB Parrot
WR Harley, Few, Wiggins, Pope
TE Jordan, Mallory

OT Herbert, Hillery, Campbell
OG Donaldson, Scaife, Reed
C Gaynor

DE Rousseau
DT Ford, Silvera, Miller
LB McCloud, Jennings, Steed, Joyner
DB Carter, Ivey, Blades, Frierson, Hall

 

[Shogungts]

Article? This is like 2 tweets.

 

[kryptonite]

Anybody remember when the "losers" we just ditched in favor of better players were the better players? How many times are we going to act all relieved because we've replaced guys who didn't win with guys who couldn't possibly be any worse?

 

[Xander]

Perry?

 

[DTP]

Part of Miami’s biggest problem for a long time is constantly having to rely on “the new batch” of guys because we change coaches every four years and we’re always saying “so an so was one of (insert former coach)’s guys”. And we try to push them out the door. Couple that with the ridiculous amount of players who leave early and it seems we never have a veteran team. One of the biggest reasons Miami loses to less talented teams is simply because a lot of these middle of the road ACC teams are full of fourth and fifth year players while Miami is rolling out freshmen offensive linemen and replacing an entire secondary with a bunch of sophomores

 

[canesarchitect]

Anybody remember when the "losers" we just ditched in favor of better players were the better players? How many times are we going to act all relieved because we've replaced guys who didn't win with guys who couldn't possibly be any worse?

So we aren't going to find a starting tackle out there ?

 

[Ethnicsands]

Why in the world would anyone think guys Diaz brought in were less of a culture issue than guys Richt/Diaz brought in?

The culture seems to have gotten worse since Pitt.

Diaz pimps gold chains, travels around on yachts, and plays quitters.

 

[Pelican45]

One of the hardest things to accomplish in college football is to build a veteran team. College players have a built-in maximum shelf life. Billing UM as NFLU almost advertises that Miami is the best and quickest way to the NFL. We have far too many kids who leave early with no real chance for success in the NFL. That, in itself, undermines veteran team building. Couple that with the current trend of transferring at the drop of a hat and you have very little chance of developing a veteran team.

 

[CashMoneyCane]

Why in the world would anyone think guys Diaz brought in were less of a culture issue than guys Richt/Diaz brought in?

The culture seems to have gotten worse since Pitt.

Diaz pimps gold chains, travels around on yachts, and plays quitters.

Because the defense has been good and the offense has been dog****?

 

[CashMoneyCane]

One of the hardest things to accomplish in college football is to build a veteran team. College players have a built-in maximum shelf life. Billing UM as NFLU almost advertises that Miami is the best and quickest way to the NFL. We have far too many kids who leave early with no real chance for success in the NFL. That, in itself, undermines veteran team building. Couple that with the current trend of transferring at the drop of a hat and you have very little chance of developing a veteran team.

This is a great point. We have been both young and under 85 for many, many years now.

 

[theibisrules]

not this again

 

[Hurricane23]

I'm fine with players leaving early if they come in and ball like they are supposed to, the problem with us is development, we need to figure out how to get the full potential out of these kids while they are here, that is why we always lose to lesser talented teams, we're always sluggish, sloppy and unorganized

 

[kryptonite]

So we aren't going to find a starting tackle out there ?

Oh we'll find one. He may suck, but we'll find somebody to take the job.

I'm just saying every year we act like we'll be better because of some guys who aren't on the team anymore having been the real problem. Ya know, they were "me" guys. Or something.

 

[Home Slice]

Perry?

Def part of the "Dirty 30" He may have been the "dirtiest" at one point.

 

[Ethnicsands]

Because the defense has been good and the offense has been dog****?

Since Diaz got here, we have had NFL roster level players on the defense in many positions. DL, LB and DB. And we went back to an attacking 4-3 base. No one thinks it has been brilliantly coordinated, as our 3rd down results have shown, but it’s been okay.

Over the same period, the offense has had no decent Qbs (most important position), terrible OLs, our best WR was a grad transfer last year, and unbelievably bad coordination, scheme, game planning and play calling.

Against all that, and knowing they share a locker room, and knowing Diaz coddles quitters and hypes baubles and fake swag, why would you think cultural difference between O and D attributable to Diaz are a factor here?

 

[CashMoneyCane]

Since Diaz got here, we have had NFL roster level players on the defense in many positions. DL, LB and DB. And we went back to an attacking 4-3 base. No one thinks it has been brilliantly coordinated, as our 3rd down results have shown, but it’s been okay.

Over the same period, the offense has had no decent Qbs (most important position), terrible OLs, our best WR was a grad transfer last year, and unbelievably bad coordination, scheme, game planning and play calling.

Against all that, and knowing they share a locker room, and knowing Diaz coddles quitters and hypes baubles and fake swag, why would you think cultural difference between O and D attributable to Diaz are a factor here?

What? The defense has, statistically speaking, been better thank OK, and was transformed from absolute garbage to pretty **** good.

I have no idea what "why would you think cultural difference between O and D attributable to Diaz are a factor here?" means, when I'm saying the culture on O cannot be attributed to Diaz.

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[Ethnicsands]

What? The defense has, statistically speaking, been better thank OK, and was transformed from absolute garbage to pretty **** good.

I have no idea what "why would you think cultural difference between O and D attributable to Diaz are a factor here?" means, when I'm saying the culture on O cannot be attributed to Diaz.

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The defnese got better because we went from the woat DC with a 3-4 read and react scheme that was a terrible fit for our kids to an attacking 3-4 that was decently implemented. That isn’t your manny culture proof point, imo.