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Going to make it a tight SHAVE for Rapist's beating partners this week. To bad this is not the old days. Rapist would have been paid a visit by dudes with broken noses, showed the real meaning switch hitters, and then introduced to some real gators in the Okefenokee swamp.
 
"A lot of the pros don't see this as being a real home-field advantage when you consider the fact it might be a 50-50 [fan] split given the prominent FSU alumni base in South Florida," he said.

**** this bull****
 
Notsince1985 said:
"A lot of the pros don't see this as being a real home-field advantage when you consider the fact it might be a 50-50 [fan] split given the prominent FSU alumni base in South Florida," he said.

**** this bull****
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Might not like it, but it will be true. We have no home field advantage.
 
We do for this game and always have. Its the only game our fans consistently show up for once every two years.
Copeseticman said:
Notsince1985 said:
"A lot of the pros don't see this as being a real home-field advantage when you consider the fact it might be a 50-50 [fan] split given the prominent FSU alumni base in South Florida," he said.

**** this bull****
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Might not like it, but it will be true. We have no home field advantage.
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the 50/50 thing is a myth. Its never been close to that. Alot of noles dont go to the this game because they dont want to deal with miami fans. They always have 15-20k and thats it.
 
wacane said:
the 50/50 thing is a myth. Its never been close to that. Alot of noles dont go to the this game because they dont want to deal with miami fans. They always have 15-20k and thats it.
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So they're going to have about 5-10,000 more fans there than our average home game?
 
Copeseticman said:
Notsince1985 said:
"A lot of the pros don't see this as being a real home-field advantage when you consider the fact it might be a 50-50 [fan] split given the prominent FSU alumni base in South Florida," he said.

**** this bull****
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Might not like it, but it will be true. We have no home field advantage.
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Bull****. What fantasy world do you live in? Have you ever been to a Miami-FSU game? FSU has NEVER....NEVER had 50% of the fans. They've NEVER been close. They've NEVER had more than 30%. They've returned their allotment (2002) before. Even when we've been down, we've had 70+% of the fans. Florida, who has WAY MORE fans around the state than FSU, didn't have 50% in 2003, and that was with Paul Dee giving them 25,000 tickets. Last year I was shocked at how few UF fans there were. So, please stop with this nonsensical BS. The only time I've seen a 50/50 split was in 1985, the last time UF beat us in Miami. UF had around 50% of the fans, but that was at the beginning of our run, as we were really establishing our fanbase. Miami fans suck, but they'll come out for this game (or the UF game).
 
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Miami does have a home field advatage we have won 13 out of 14 in Sun Life

this year 5-0 at home 1-3 on the road

last year 6-1 at home 3-2 on the road 0-1 neutral site

how do you not say when have a home field advantage when we won 13 out of 14 at home and having a losing record on the road during the same span.
 
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We haven't won 13 straight at home, since we lost to VT late last year at home. I think we might have won 13 of 14 at home or something though.
 
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They said the same **** goin into the florida-UM game last year... Couldnt of been more than a 75/25 split..
 
Notsince1985 said:
"A lot of the pros don't see this as being a real home-field advantage when you consider the fact it might be a 50-50 [fan] split given the prominent FSU alumni base in South Florida," he said.

**** this bull****
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I agree, a 50/50 split is nonsense. However, the lower home field allotment for Sun Life is long term and justified, based on how the Dolphins have fared in that stadium compared to their road results. It's established as one of the worst home venues in the NFL. Once the Canes moved to Sun Life the same trend was applied. Miami does not receive the same amount of points for home field as we did in the Orange Bowl.

Late money generally shows against the Canes in home games that are competitively priced. However, in this game there is conflict due to the bye week. The so-called Las Vegas sharps general like to back good teams coming off a bye. In the NFL there's no great advantage to a bye other than road favorites perform better than normal.

I love how the journalists often scramble for rationale toward a spread they don't understand. In this case the brainstorm word is inconsistency. Meanwhile, it's all connected to the power rating. Florida State's power rating has been dropping all season, particularly in relationship to teams ranked below them. They aren't in the Top 10 in some power rating lists.

Ed Salmons is quoted in the linked article. Good guy. He's now left the Hilton for his own top role after serving under Jay Kornegay for many years there and at the Imperial Palace. But I notice that Salmons hasn't shaken his tendency to take things to the extreme. He thinks the Canes many end up a 1 point favorite. Possible, but the money went the other way today. The offshore sites are now back up to -2.5 with few exceptions. Las Vegas now lags offshore sites. Las Vegas is still a mixture of -1.5 and -2.

In the early '90s Salmons was an arrogant new sportsbook supervisor at the Imperial Palace. Keep in mind not every college football game carried an over/under at that point. Salmons liked to mouth off behind the counter and I noticed he always made wild bar stool caliber assertions, like "They'll score 80 next week." Eventually I challenged him to a little weekly game. He agreed. We would meet outside the sportsbook office and make one total per week on a college football game that otherwise didn't carry a total. The first guy would pick the specific game, the second guy would make the total, and then the original guy had to bet into that total. I knew I had a huge edge because Salmons was guaranteed to take everything too far. So I made sure to always pick a game that had two very high scoring teams or two very low scoring teams. Salmons, as I suspected, would err toward the extreme every week. All I had to do was pick toward normalcy. He'd make the total 72 and I'd go under. Or with two low scoring teams he'd say 36 and I'd go over. We only bet 5 bucks per week. Eventually we quit late in the season. Salmons had less and less energy every week. I won all but twice. It reached the point I felt guilty about taking his fiver every Monday afternoon.

Like I said, he's a sharp guy and has wised up since that point. He and his wife lived far from center Strip so he faced a long commute. Salmons is a talented golfer, like almost everybody who worked at the Imperial Palace sportsbook in that era. They had weekly competitive matches. And that book became known as the hub of golf betting in Las Vegas, the first book to offer weekly golf matchups beginning in fall 1989.
 
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