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4+ years to revive an elite program when it was down?

From what I can recall, other good/great coaches revived programs on a much faster time table. Saban, Meyer, Chizik are some examples that I can think of where the turnaround happened much faster.

I know people use the excuse of the "the cloud" but we still have more talent and have had higher rated recruiting classes than any school we have lost to except FSU.

Usually you can tell within 2-3 years if a coach is going to be the guy.
 
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When you're going to have 9 or 10 players drafted, but you're 6-5 with your most recent loss being a blowout at the hands of a 4-win team, it's a pretty good indication you'll never amount to jack ****.
 
Al has never won anything. He has an empty trophy case at home just like ****** Tech
 
How about another example of a program where the fan base and the ex-players hated the head coach so much but the admin refused to get rid of him?

What other program has had so much animosity to a coaching staff and refused to act?

These MoFos act like the fans opinion doesn't count for squat.
 
At a major championship winning program? Let's review:

FSU: Jimbo took over in 2010. Program hadn't won in 11 years. Won the Atlantic and 10 games and a bowl game first year. Won 9 games and a bowl the 2nd year. Won the ACC the third year, and the title his fourth.

UF: Urban Meyer took over in 2005. Program hadn't won in 9 year. Won 9 games and a bowl that first year. Won the national title in year 2.

Bama: Saban got to bama in 2007. Program hadn't won in 15 years. Won 7 games his first year and a bowl game. Won the SEC West and made a BCS bowl year two, won the national title year 3.

Texas: Mack Brown took over in 1998. Texas hadn't won in 27 years. Won 9 games first three years, and then won 11 games 3 of the next four years, with one 10 win year in between. In his 8th season, he won the title.

OU: Stoops took over in 1999. They hadn't won since 1985. Won 7 games first year, then the title the next year.

USC: Pete Carroll took over in 2001. They hadn't won for 23 years. Won 6 games his first year. Next year won 11 games and a BCS bowl. Third year won a title.

Ohio State: Jim Tressel takes over in 2001. They hadn't won for 30 years. Wins 7 games year one. Win a national title** in year two.

Any of the other powers, Nebraska, Michigan, Notre Dame, etc. have yet to come back. Pellini is about to get canned, Hoke is getting canned after four years, and Kelly had a 12 win season and title appearance in year 3.

The ONLY coach that didn't win a TITLE within four years was Mack Brown, who was taking over the most distant-from-a-title team, and he averaged 10 wins a year until he won, never winning less than 9.

But we have MORONS who think that Al is just going to suddenly become a championship coach when history has consistently proven if it doesnt happen within four years it likely never will.
 
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I've asked questions like this. You won't get a straight answer. If you do get one it'll be about something that has nothing to do with nothin.
 
PAR said:
I've asked questions like this. You won't get a straight answer. If you do get one it'll be about something that has nothing to do with nothin.
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Naw, he'll get the usual "Randy left nothing for Golden while all those other schools were stacked".
 
Nebraska is about to can Pelini after 6 years: the man never won less than 9 games. 9-4 three times, 10-3 three times.....won his division three times. And everyone on here knows he's a corch yet his record badly ***** on al goldens.
 
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I can only think of two:

--Tuberville at Auburn. Bounced between 4 and 6 losses per season for 5 years before going 13-0 in his 6th year.

--John Cooper at Ohio State. in the era of 11-game seasons, he took 6 years to win more than 8 games in a season. Ended up coaching 13 yrs at OSU, bringing home several top-20 finishes, including two #2 finishes, but no NCs.

--Keep in mind that there are very few coaches who have "brought back" programs after years of mediocrity. As a previous poster pointed out, teams like ND, nebraska, Michigan, Washington, etc have never really come back.

--Also keep in mind that there are a lot of coaches who've gotten 5 years or more to try their luck. Not saying Golden deserves year 5, but there are a lot of programs who've stuck with coaches for 5 or more. Georgia (Ray Goff and Jim Donnan), ND (Bob Davie, Charlie Weiss), USC (John Robinson) come to mind.
 
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Nebraska is about to can Pelini after 6 years: the man never won less than 9 games. 9-4 three times, 10-3 three times.....won his division three times. And everyone on here knows he's a corch yet his record badly ***** on al goldens.
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He's also an asshat who's had several run-ins with the admin at NU.

That's kinda the key. Very few coaches have been fired in under 5 years without either A) a losing season or two, or B) run-ins with the admin.
 
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GoldenShowers said:
Nebraska is about to can Pelini after 6 years: the man never won less than 9 games. 9-4 three times, 10-3 three times.....won his division three times. And everyone on here knows he's a corch yet his record badly ***** on al goldens.
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He's also an asshat who's had several run-ins with the admin at NU.

That's kinda the key. Very few coaches have been fired in under 5 years without either A) a losing season or two, or B) run-ins with the admin.
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It is just prolonging the agony because as we can see from other elite programs a couple of extra years isn't going to make a difference.

ND, Nebraska, Michigan, Washington never made it back maybe because they hired the wrong coach not because they didn't give the coach enough time.

Another factor is that none of those schools except for maybe USC has the kind of talent in their own backyard that the Canes have. Any coach should be able to wipe his *** with the ACC Coastal with just a halfway decent job of recruiting South Florida.
 
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