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2005 Canes - what could have been!!!

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For some reason, games from the 2005 season started popping up on my youtube, so I watched some of the highlight videos. I had forgotten that we were #3 in the country at the end of the season and then lost an idiotic game against GT 14-10!! I remember now how ****ed I was about that. Totally out talented that GT team and we were totally outcouched!

Coaching accounts for so much, which is why I am stoked about the coming season!!!

If that 2005 Cane team had good coaching, they would have either been playing for the natty or at least have ended the season as the #2 or #3 team in the country. What a waste of talent! And, that OL wasn't half bad. If there had been a Dan Enos for Kyle Wright or even a Jed Fish... oh well.

Also, when that D came to play, they were much better than I remembered. And, the DL was really good, filled with guys that aren't really remembered here like Carrol and Nanton. Brown was a stud as well. Hester was on that team.

Let's win 11 regular season games coming up and at least get back in the national discussion!!
 
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filmcane said:
For some reason, games from the 2005 season started popping up on my youtube, so I watched some of the highlight videos. I had forgotten that we were #3 in the country at the end of the season and then lost an idiotic game against GT 14-10!! I remember now how ****ed I was about that. Totally out talented that GT team and we were totally outcouched!

Coaching accounts for so much, which is why I am stoked about the coming season!!!

If that 2005 Cane team had good coaching, they would have either been playing for the natty or at least have ended the season as the #2 or #3 team in the country. What a waste of talent! And, that OL wasn't half bad. If there had been a Dan Enos for Kyle Wright or even a Jed Fish... oh well.

Also, when that D came to play, they were much better than I remembered. And, the DL was really good, filled with guys that aren't really remembered here like Carrol and Nanton. Brown was a stud as well. Hester was on that team.

Let's win 11 regular season games coming up and at least get back in the national discussion!!
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Yes, the 2005 Hurricanes only gave up 11 points per game when you exclude the LSU finale. That's better than any defensive performance except for 2001. The problem was that we went from scoring 32 points per game in 2004 to just 27 in 2005. Our skill position players were thinning out due to Larry Coker's baffling inability to recruit wide receivers (we signed zero in 2005). Those problems would only get worse in 2006 and 2007.
 
GojiraCane said:
Yes, the 2005 Hurricanes only gave up 11 points per game when you exclude the LSU finale. That's better than any defensive performance except for 2001. The problem was that we went from scoring 32 points per game in 2004 to just 27 in 2005. Our skill position players were thinning out due to Larry Coker's baffling inability to recruit wide receivers (we signed zero in 2005). Those problems would only get worse in 2006 and 2007.
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GojiraCane said:
Yes, the 2005 Hurricanes only gave up 11 points per game when you exclude the LSU finale. That's better than any defensive performance except for 2001. The problem was that we went from scoring 32 points per game in 2004 to just 27 in 2005. Our skill position players were thinning out due to Larry Coker's baffling inability to recruit wide receivers (we signed zero in 2005). Those problems would only get worse in 2006 and 2007.
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Great points!! And, to update this - we would have gone 11-1 if we had scored 28 points a game in 2018.

Traditionally, if I had to pick one side over the other, I always preferred to watch the D over the O through the years. However, I am so sick of us being inept on that side of the ball. Thank God we have Manny and Enos!!
 
Definitely would not have been #1 or 2.

I remember watching an episode of Gameday that year, it might have been before this game, and Herbstreit said something like, "I think we have finally found a strong #3 team for this season." B/c USC and Texas entered the season at 1 & 2, and neither of them ever lost a game, and every team that got ranked 3rd, promptly lost.

I remember feeling good after hearing that, and was real excited for the future of Canes football. If only knew lol.
 
SPAMM said:
Was that the team where Monroe the punter was a receiver?
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It was either that year or 2006. Miami also had to convert a cornerback as well.

Coker's WR recruiting was terrible:
2002: Ryan Moore (5 star), Akeem Jolla (4 star), Sinorice Moss (3 star)
2003: Darnell Jenkins (4 star)
2004: Lance Leggett (5 star), Khalil Jones (2 star)
2005: None
2006: Sam Shields (4 star), George Robinson (2 star)

Just three wide receivers signed between 2003 and 2005. Not enough to keep roster levels at normal.

His quarterback recruiting was even worse:
2002: Marc Guillon (2 star) - Left after one year
2003: Kyle Wright (5 star)
2004: Kirby Freeman (4 star)
2005: None
2006: None (technically there was Daniel Stegall, but he went to MLB instead)
 
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filmcane said:
For some reason, games from the 2005 season started popping up on my youtube, so I watched some of the highlight videos. I had forgotten that we were #3 in the country at the end of the season and then lost an idiotic game against GT 14-10!! I remember now how ****ed I was about that. Totally out talented that GT team and we were totally outcouched!

Coaching accounts for so much, which is why I am stoked about the coming season!!!

If that 2005 Cane team had good coaching, they would have either been playing for the natty or at least have ended the season as the #2 or #3 team in the country. What a waste of talent! And, that OL wasn't half bad. If there had been a Dan Enos for Kyle Wright or even a Jed Fish... oh well.

Also, when that D came to play, they were much better than I remembered. And, the DL was really good, filled with guys that aren't really remembered here like Carrol and Nanton. Brown was a stud as well. Hester was on that team.

Let's win 11 regular season games coming up and at least get back in the national discussion!!
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Yea that season haunts me too! What could have been with some good coaching because that was a national championship roster. And let’s not forget Gtech wasn’t the only game we **** the bed that year, FSU first game with first and goal to win it at the end and we can’t punch it in from around the one. And then to make it worse we blow the chip shot field goal to tie it because the *** hole holder can’t hold the ball and we lose 7 to 10. two games against FSU and Gtech were we were the better team and we screwed it up. That should have been an undefeated 13-0 year playing for the title. Smh
 
Hard to make the claim we would have been ranked that high after LSU beat the **** out of us both on and off the field. A top 5 team can’t get beat 40-3 by a very good but not dominant LSU team, just sayin...
 
bobbydigius said:
Hard to make the claim we would have been ranked that high after LSU beat the **** out of us both on and off the field. A top 5 team can’t get beat 40-3 by a very good but not dominant LSU team, just sayin...
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I respectfully disagree. Lots of examples as to why this happens sometimes because it is an emotional sport and some losses aren't as bad as they appear.

Most recently, I was one of the few people (at least in my circle) who thought that Clemson was going to beat Bama, but no one knew they were going to slaughter Bama. Lots of other examples including Cane examples.

By the time the LSU game happened, Coker had completely lost that team. With good coaches, we don't lose that game or at worst it is a close loss.
 
Ah the 05 canes my first season watching college football I was in the fifth grade lol. Greatest memory of my first season as a fan was the VT beat down and devin Hester my GOAT cane.
 
filmcane said:
I respectfully disagree. Lots of examples as to why this happens sometimes because it is an emotional sport and some losses aren't as bad as they appear.

Most recently, I was one of the few people (at least in my circle) who thought that Clemson was going to beat Bama, but no one knew they were going to slaughter Bama. Lots of other examples including Cane examples.

By the time the LSU game happened, Coker had completely lost that team. With good coaches, we don't lose that game or at worst it is a close loss.
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Bama went undefeated through conference play and beat a very good OU team before getting handled by a great Clemson team that had a generational talent at QB albeit a freshman and a great DL, it happens. In fact Bama did it to us in 92. Our 05 team just wasn’t that good, plain and simple. We played a meh schedule and still managed to lose to two okay teams at best and we would have gotten handled by any good team in whatever bowl we went to, not just LSU. Coker didn’t lose the team against GT, he lost the team when LSU completely unraveled the Miami mystique that we had from the early 2000s. They bullied us and did whatever they wanted.

Now I will say this, that Miami team is one of our more talented teams in the last decade and a half which just goes to show you how far we have fallen
 
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Fsu ****ed us up earlier..... Wouldn't have been in the chip cause of that game.... But that gt game is what ****ed everything up..... That **** 1st down pass into triple coverage.... Nightmares
 
GojiraCane said:
It was either that year or 2006. Miami also had to convert a cornerback as well.

Coker's WR recruiting was terrible:
2002: Ryan Moore (5 star), Akeem Jolla (4 star), Sinorice Moss (3 star)
2003: Darnell Jenkins (4 star)
2004: Lance Leggett (5 star), Khalil Jones (2 star)
2005: None
2006: Sam Shields (4 star), George Robinson (2 star)

Just three wide receivers signed between 2003 and 2005. Not enough to keep roster levels at normal.

His quarterback recruiting was even worse:
2002: Marc Guillon (2 star) - Left after one year
2003: Kyle Wright (5 star)
2004: Kirby Freeman (4 star)
2005: None
2006: None (technically there was Daniel Stegall, but he went to MLB instead)
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Sleep at the wheel. Wha a disaster!
 
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