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svenben said:
love how they will turn him into some hero for putting football over family
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you might get roasted for that take, but not from me.
Imagine being at work and getting that news and saying, “son, I’m sorry for your loss. I’m gonna win this trial for you (or do a really good job on this surgery for you)”

W in T everliving F
 
What was he supposed to do sit in his hotel crying? Get on an airplane and fly back to his grown son? He will get back I am sure after the game and the game was probably therapeutic for him while he processed his emotions. I know work for me at times has been a divergent from outside issues. He also had a lot of people counting on him and he makes a chit ton of money to get his job done and while employers will say the right thing, they don’t give a chit they want you to be a robot.
 
Who calls the LSU plays was bugging me. In case anyone else is wondering, I found this:

"You know, Steve's getting older now," Orgeron said. "Joe's 28. They lean on each other. Joe is tremendous in the meeting room. When Steve has a question, Joe always seems to have an answer. They're up in the press box. Steve is calling the plays, but you know what? Joe has the next play ready for him. If he needs Joe, Joe is going to give it to him."

Steve calls the plays. Article also says Steve wanted the spread and wanted help. Brady is the helper. Got it.
 
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MIA42178 said:
Do any of you commenting have children?

is there anything on earth that would stop you from consoling your child in a loss like that?
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We can’t judge the decision because:
1) we don’t know the family dynamics among other things.
2) it’s none of our business


However, hypothetically, from an operational standpoint (pun intended) if the previously mentioned surgeon faced such a scenario, I would hope they would reschedule the operation (not an option in this case) or have a trusted and non-distracted partner perform the surgery. In this case, Brady could have done so. By choosing to do the surgery you are being selfish (thinking more about your wellbeing than your patients), delusional (thinking that your are not distracted), pompous (think that you are better than your partners even when you are distracted), or some combination of this...
 
MIA42178 said:
you might get roasted for that take, but not from me.
Imagine being at work and getting that news and saying, “son, I’m sorry for your loss. I’m gonna win this trial for you (or do a really good job on this surgery for you)”

W in T everliving F
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you guys are dumb. The more likely scenario is he either asked his son and family what to do or he said he would come home and his family told him to coach for 3 hours because there’s nothing he can do at home. I highly doubt his family wanted him home and he said “I’m going to coach instead”
 
MIA42178 said:
you might get roasted for that take, but not from me.
Imagine being at work and getting that news and saying, “son, I’m sorry for your loss. I’m gonna win this trial for you (or do a really good job on this surgery for you)”

W in T everliving F
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You’d think at the very least the coaches wife would leave to be with her son, who sounded like he was having a breakdown.
 
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Miami[]_[]Smoke said:
you guys are dumb. The more likely scenario is he either asked his son and family what to do or he said he would come home and his family told him to coach for 3 hours because there’s nothing he can do at home. I highly doubt his family wanted him home and he said “I’m going to coach instead”
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The coaches wife didn’t even leave to be with her son lol
 
MIA42178 said:
Do any of you commenting have children?

is there anything on earth that would stop you from consoling your child in a loss like that?
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I have 2 boys at home under 3 and I can’t imagine a world where I’m on a work trip and say “sorry to hear your wife died, I’m going to close this deal in her honor. See you at the funeral.”

Sports in general have this weird respect for guys who put their teammates before their family. The same thing happens when a guy has a kid Saturday and then is on the field Sunday “being a warrior, being there for his teammates”. It’s truly a bizarre thing to put on a pedestal as something noble and brave.
 
I think the difference in these surgery and business analogies also is that if a doctor or salesman makes this decision, the only people that really know about it are the families, the employers, maybe some close friends or possibly the local paper if you happen to be a well-known surgeon. You can bet if Ensminger opted out of coaching the playoff game, even if it was the right decision, his whole family would have gotten harassed nonstop by crazy fans, media idiots, etc, and God forbid if LSU had actually lost that game. Coaching may sadly have actually been the path of least resistance for the family.
 
MIA42178 said:
Do any of you commenting have children?

is there anything on earth that would stop you from consoling your child in a loss like that?
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I have 4. People grieve differently. Not a single person here passing judgment has any knowledge of the family, their dynamic, or the conversations.

If my son just suffered that sort tragedy, and I hope he never does, I'd offer to come and be by his side during this trying time.

If my father was about to coach a playoff game, I'd encourage him to do his job for the team, there's nothing he could do by being there. We can talk later, so for now, go out there and win.
 
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