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But don't coaching and scheme and Ws and Ls go hand in hand? All I care about is winning. I used to go into a Saturday knowing that we'd dominate a team...not so much anymore.

Win and you will retain players. small gripes go away if you have a good team.

I've been a Canes fan since the early 80's going to Orange Bowl games with my dad, may they both rest in peace. I want to get back to winning...I want to get back to the state championship determining the national championship. I don't care who the coach is, as long as we win.

Agree with all of this. I think a new coach who went 6-7 in his first year...and fired his OC needs to start somewhere...we haven't won many games with these guys...we don't have the luxury like Bama losing 2 games and considering that a bad season.

I don't follow things Saban says...but thanks for the knowledge...like I said...always happy to be proven wrong.

Good to know. Always happy to be proven wrong. But leaving for a job is different than for another team. Thanks for the knowledge.

I'd imagine before the portal, a lot of players considered leaving..from a lot of teams. I never said if you consider leaving...I said if you leave/quit...see you. not being with the team...placing your name in the portal...enrolling in another university...that to me is gone.

You can consider leaving without putting your name in the portal. Also that player that had specific issues with a coach quit on his team. I agree, we need to retain players. Again, not to harp on a pun...there is no evidence that Njoku is any good.

We used to have accountability. I'd rather suffer a little to get that back. Lord knows I've suffered plenty in the last 15 years. The only way to lose the soft label is to punch people in the mouth. Hiring a good OC is step one. Score 30+ a game, win 10 plus games. Clemson's lowest point total...

I always have jokes. But I'm serious. I respect your opinion...but do you think Saban or Dabo would take players back that left?

Having bodies for bodies sake doesn't mean a thing. This is why FIU and other teams called us soft. Soft mentality begged Jeff Thomas to come back after he quit on the team. It begged Jarren to come back...it allowed Tate to take a vacation. Hard stance, you leave, have a good one. You can get...

disagree, I think we need to stop with the narrative that if you are here you are good. no more begging players that leave/quit on the team to come back home.