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8-4 means we lost to 3 of the following: A starting from scratch UNC and GT An FSU in free fall Bad teams in UL and Duke Home games against VT and UVA Basically exactly what Golden, Randy, and Mork would've done

FTFY. Manny isn't going to recruit a better team than he has now if he can't win with this team. 8-4 would be a disaster.