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Ok, done with this. I see no way Butch stays long enough for that. And then the Internet kicks in and changes recruiting, period.

That brings us back to the original question, what if Butch stays?

I agree, but that was not the question. Again, Jimmy built on Howard’s foundation. Anyone who does not recognize that is not paying attention.

No problem there. These things don’t have to become personal or scorched earth.

Nice. Gracias.

Interesting, but I understood you to argue he had some sort of coaching eye for talent. As if he saw what others failed to see or had not seen. Like Hayden Fry. That’s an eye for coaching talent. Opinions will differ, but I am not blown away by that list. Seems to me the “best” have proven...

If you do not believe Howard getting into areas of the tricounty that created the U and became the basis of the U...ok, we differ. JJ unquestionably built on what Howard built. Equally unquestionable is the foundation. That was Howard.

Interesting perspective. Never thought about Butch as a coaching talent evaluator. I'd have to see examples of that. But he was a fantastic athlete talent evaluator. FIU will show us whether or not he still has that gift.

So....that article took up quite a bit of space to say nothing, really. It also presents an unlikely all or none - Butch leaves for the Browns then or Butch stays through today. I think it is likely that if Butch turns down the Browns we get him for no more than 1-3 more years. During that...