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........... Interesting read

I do agree on that. It is only a peice of the picture. I just don't think he's as great of a hire at this stage that some are making him out to be because his brief resume doesn't lend itself to that. Manny has his vision of what he wants so I'm gonna back him and roll with it. I do hope this...

Yards per play is a much better indicator (than total yards/game) on how good a defense actually is. I can't help it if you don't get that.

Do some research Grinch has actually been an on the field coach for over a decade, and has been a DC on the power 5 level including Ohio State. Your post appears to be idiotic given the context.

You really can't debate that the staff is green. It's a fact.

His yards per play rank went from 43, 66, 64, 25. So only one top 25 defense. Two years out of the top 50. His defense dropped his second year and marginally improved his third. Yes, his last year he had a top 25 rank, but that appears to be an outlier.

What were his numbers for the previous years. Anyone can use numbers for a particular year and make someone look great. I'm looking for the yearly body of work. I get he has potential, but even Lucane said it's better to have a defensive coordinator who has seen other things etc. That is my...

first Patke has only been an on field coach for less than a year. That is green. Banda has only been a position coach for 3 years that is green. Rumph has only been a position coach for 3 years that is green. There have been many post about banda not actually being a good coach but more of a...

Not at all, those are just a couple of examples. . Names don't matter to me, but I do look at the numbers and the overall composition of the defensive staff which is very green. His numbers don't reflect a top tier defensive coordinator.

Lol ok there were tons of post about the "chili bartender" and Patke, and Rumph. Will not feed the troll anymore...

People were complaining about how green the defensive staff was last year. All they did was replace Manny with an even younger guy.

Shoop, Alex Grinch Also, didn't many people complain about richt only bringing guys in that he's worked with in the past. Look I want Manny to be successful. Being a first-time head coach there are a lot of things that you don't know. And I want him to be able to devote as much time as...

I don't know why that post is getting downvoted. It's not a home run higher. The guy fits what Manny wants to do but he's young and doesn't have that great of a resume. It's not a bad hire but it's not like he knocked it out of the park with this one.

This defensive staff is very green

Not thrilled/not ****ed. If it works out great. If not Manny may have to perform double duty.