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i don't know what stat you're citing

yeah his defense is predicated on.... the defense making good plays. is that your argument? lol. are you mark d'onofrio?

miami defenses under manny by S&P: 2016 - 11 2017 - 16 2018 - 14 2019 - 13

so it doesn't count when you evaluate and sign elite talent before anyone else? ok

so he is a good coach? because i'm trying to figure out why our defense has been good for 4 years when the guy who runs it can't recruit

lol but i thought it was kool who couldn't recruit?

yes, i'm using 3 stars who turned into studs in the most important position group on defense as evidence that he can recruit

patrick surtain/josh jobe/tyson campbell 2019 stats: 57 tackles, 1.5 TFL, 2 INT, 10 PBU, 3 FF al blades jr/dj ivey/gilbert frierson 2019 stats: 63 tackles, 4 TFL, 5 INT, 7 PBU so is manny a bad recruiter and a good coach or... 🤷‍♂️

would also like the manny is a bad recruiter crowd to explain greg rousseau, jon garvin, nesta silvera, jon ford, jordan miller, and jahfari harvey, who were all 3 stars when they committed to and/or signed with miami

the people who say manny's recruiting has always been bad here need to explain how he keeps putting up top 15 defenses every season