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Exactly the point, is all about the players, coaches matter but talent matters more. Or did Belichick forgot how to coach this season. Also where has Butch won? Other than assembling a great roster, something he never was able to replicate, where else has he won.

A lot of ifs and assumptions there. We don’t know if Butch would've won cause he didn't and Coker did. He assembled a great team but hasn't repeated it anywhere else. So was it evaluations, development or was he just lucky.

You just agreed with me

So does coaching matter or not? Coker was a bad coach everyone agrees on that, yet he won a title and played for a second one. Which is the point some are trying to make here about Bama. Is it all the 5stars they get or the coaching. Anyone can coach a loaded roster, Coker did.

What's your point? Butch left and Coker won a title with those same players and played for a second one.

Butch coached up? Coker won a title with the same players Butch couldn't.

Coker was part of Butch's staff. My point is that talent is more important than coaching. Coker is proof of that.

You just made my point.

Recruiting, evaluations, bottom line an influx of talent makes any coach look good. Coker won a national title and was denied by a late pass interference flag call from winning a second. Was he elite at coaching or developing talent?

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