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    Understated part of our downfall

    Live in a world that lacks accountability for your own actions?
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    No argument with any of that. Shannon was in way way way over his head. You know that guy was all cane though. He wasn't head coach material. Everybody knew it. You also know he brought attention to most of the stuff that was crumbling in the Coker regime. Might even be why he got the job.
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    Good post. Cross Campbell off your list though. I said this for years on cane sites when his name got brought up. Unless he changed his whole thought process, he ain't leaving that part of the country. That comes on about as good authority as you can get.
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    Understated part of our downfall

    That is how I see it also. I think he would do well, but also admit it could be an unmitigated disaster. I don't want the safe cozy hire.
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    Understated part of our downfall

    He got guys that fit his system but the majority of starters on our team were not from Sfla. Most of the guys we view as studs, weren't rated all that high. Dorsey, Winslow, Shockey, DJ, majority of oline and dline, Reed, Portis, etc etc. They weren't from Sfla. What he did, with the...
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    I'm not sure where that came from at all. We went from one extreme to the other between Coker and Shannon. People don't know this, Shannon was one of the first to realize Coker wasn't the guy. He saw it crumbling. Saw the country club attitude. Almost all of that was on the offensive side of the...
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    Understated part of our downfall

    Our 2001 team had guys from all over. All over. Why Butch is so revered. I think people forget that. Jersey to Canada to Cali to Louisiana.
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    Understated part of our downfall

    If Shannon miraculously would have succeeded, might be the 2nd greatest story ever told. I didn't like the hire at all, let me be clear on that, his story is unbelievable though. I've never ever ever wanted somebody to succeed more than him. I also knew the blow back that would be coming for...
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    Understated part of our downfall

    I agree wholeheartedly but to be fair, Shannon gave a lot to this school. I don't see it that way with Manny. Both very lazy hires, no doubt.
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    Understated part of our downfall

    All kids coming in need structure. Coker let the players run the show. I give him credit for being smart enough to let Ed and crew be the real coaches. Shannon and Golden I wouldn't call players coaches though. Manny is the coaching version of Nevin Shapiro. Coker---recruited based on...
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