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I gave you the numbers already. I’ll agree to disagree. They have finished top 4 in the ACC overall in 4/6 seasons. I never said they were a dominant program. But they are without a shadow of a doubt one of the ACCs best programs...... That’s how trash the ACC is. That a middle of the pack...

Not a brick wall if it’s facts bruh. But do you. I just presented facts that what you stated was wrong and you say I’m not reading that....lol. Fact Is they have come into the ACC and been one of the top 4 programs. The data backs it up. Im not arguing with the numbers lol. ✌🏿

Brother your arguing semantics at this stage.....point I’m making which stands. Your talking the last two years? Lol. Just you last year. They were the #3 team in the ACC. a bad 2018 means nothing. Like I said teams have bad seasons or down years. And their 8-5 record last season still...

I see you with the facts! My kinda guy! I’ll present some of my own. And we’ll agree to disagree. ACC went 6-14 Against other conferences. The coastal 1-6 against other conferences. The Atlantic has always been the stronger division of our overall weak conference. Louisville, FSU, Clemson...

Perhaps. I just don’t see any team here outside of Clemson, FSU on a good year, and Miami on a good year even placing top 4 in any other conference. these teams are trash. Navy could join the coastal and smash most these teams. WVU, ASU, AZ, Nebraska, would probably place top 2 in the coastal...

ACC football is soft. Outside of the top ACC team in a given year......most would struggle to be top 4 in the other Power 5 conferences. Dont let a few individual players convince you that this conference is any type of good top to bottom. There are good players in every conference. Group of 5...

Pretty much the 1st Team All-ACC team from 2019. We knew we were facing all these guys some we faced already in......2019. https://theacc.com/news/2019/12/3/athlete-awards-clemson-leads-2019-all-acc-football-team.aspx