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My fault. I didn't quote the poster, but I was responding to the one that wanted other metrics and wanted a complete run down of the sub metrics that S&P+ uses. I completely understand what you're saying. You have your data point, and I get it.

Most analytic models include recruiting rankings into their preseason rankings. It makes sense why they do it. As the season goes on, they get enough data points to phase out the preseason rankings. And the S&P+ does adjust for level of competition. That's how it gives you a "points above"...

Right. But the S&P+ Offensive Rankings don't measure purely success rate. That is simply a component of the ranking, and you can look specifically at that ranking if you want. But the S&P+ measures success rate v. explosive rate. How often do you get the minimum number of yards needed to...

I'm using the Football Outsiders Offensive Rankings for 2012. CMU is 91 on their list.

Everybody is ranked on a per play basis based on success and explosiveness. Basically, did you get the minimum number of yards to be "successful"? How much above the minimum did you get? This is the adjusted for your schedule, and put against what an average team would have done against...

Basically, you're encouraging people to start using the S&P+. Which is a play to play, down to down measurement, that adjusts for your level of competition. Which is exactly what I've been bringing up.

I still don't really understand what he means? That it's not fair to look at the S&P+ rankings overall because it's comparing CMU to every team? 1. That's not true. The S&P+ compares you to the average team, and then asks how much better were you then the average team would have been...

But the S&P+ adjusts every team for their level of competition, and then ranks them. It's not putting Central Michigan in an unfair comparison. That's what is so nice about its rankings. It's adjusting. In 2012, which is 3 years into the Enos offensive era at CMU, they were 91st in S&P+...

He never had an offense that broke the S&P+ Top 80 at Central Michigan. We can provide reasons for that in a particular year to mitigate the ranking and explain why it was so low that year. But the idea that there was a mitigating factor EVERY year as to why this offensive genius couldn't...