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Mostly agree, but I think 8 wins is possible and wouldn’t be cause for alarm. As you point out “looking better” is something to keep an eye on. It’s hard to quantify, but it matters how we get there.

I understand all that, I’m just not excited about losing a body on that DL. I’m specifically speaking to the people who get excited every time we lose a player. Yes it’s a sign we’re moving in a new direction, but it’s going to hurt a little more next year not having that guy.

I’ve had this debate many times and my point is the same as always. If you don’t have a kid to replace him with, right now, then I’d rather everybody stay. IF the fight rumors are true and IF they weren’t a result of Nesta wanting other guys to be better, then I’m fine with him being out...

And we have a below average (at best) DL, so for one will miss him.

Who did you imagine would start before him? Him leaving isn’t the end of the world, but I fail to see how it doesn’t hurt.

Obviously his fault for not being what you envisioned.