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how you win absolutely matters. Sometimes there are great 7 pt wins. But there are times you win by 21 -- and you played terribly or down to the level of your opponent. That's what guys like Saban understand better than anyone. That's why it's not just about winning -- but how you do so, because...

I just want to see Miami/Manny routinely (and convincingly) beat programs they should Bottom line, vs App St and Mich St at home, with this squad -- those should be wins Lets get those and build from there, and see what happens the rest of the way Two wins wont mean we crown Manny. But a...

you had me excited for a moment -**** you!!