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as Herm Edwards once said: you... play... to... win....the game... Yes, emotional letdowns happen, but SAturday was beyond anything Then we had players still posting highlights from this game (that's another huge issue of culture that exists within this program)

that's the thing, especially on defense, I think the players effort was OK - they were just poorly coached/prepared. This is Manny's way of covering his own azzz

it's that old line: 'we're in the 15th year of a 5 year rebuilding plan." I get it, this game wasn't the Super Bowl, but good grief, that effort put forth this past weekend was truly alarming on many levels. Anyone that tries to rationalize that stuff is beyond reasoning with in my view