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everyone agrees about manny that hes done barring some ridiculous miracle where you can't fire him. the point of the Dabo stuff was Clemson didn't fire an average coach after what 247 ranked as mediocre to woof recruiting classes. obviously, c Clemson got extremely lucky that it worked out...

were not saying Manny is Dabo. no one is. the point was that Clemson didn't fire Dabo after the situation you mentioned. it happened to be one of the teams the poster suggested. it turned into well Manny equals Dabo which no one said. its a once in a lifetime situation. again, NOT A SINGLE...

what's his next best option at this point? go with inexperience behind DJ and sit through another poor season (by their current standards)?

I think they have a highly recruited kid behind DJ? also I bet they try for rattler who isn't good either but he experienced lol. they need to fix their WR recruiting. they've missed on a ton of evals there recently and/or lack of development

he doesn't deserve more time. there is only one scenario where they will give him more time and even Cribby said that would be the only way it'll happen.

his results at that time wasn't indicative of special imo. he had 5 loss season 7 loss season and 4 loss season. he then got blown out by West Virginia in the bowl. he turned out to be special. also, no one is saying to give Manny time. no one is defending him. were just bringing up an...

who coaches Clemson?

dude after the 2012 blowout, I remember the heat really being on. ****, there were still questions when FSU blew them out w Winston in 13. he turned it around and built a special program that seems to be floundering now with Ugggggeeaallealalal or w.e. being awful

nah. I agree w the rest, but I don't agree w the fans showing patience. this fanbase will be looking for the next guy by year 3 beyond a conf title in year 1 and 2 (which if youre rebuilding isn't likely). ****, the fanbase wanted spo fired multiple times lol. they would call Riley washed. ****...

nah I wouldn't have brought up Dabo if he didn't use Clemson as an example. they were the LONE exception really.

we all expect Manny to get fired, but what it seems like w you is that you hate a dude you've never met that you couldn't see any possible way he'd stick around another season? the possible exception is winning out however unlikely. no one wants Manny around anymore. also, you just happened to...

so you watched the orange bowl blowout by west va and said hes building something special or when he went 6-7? come on now. if you saw that then you know it all and I want the lotto numbers but frankly its hard to imagine that you saw a career WR coach elevated to interim who was fine his first...

agreed. the poster said Clemson wouldn't keep a and b if they had stunk. well they weren't special int he beginning with Dabo but allowed him work through his issues and staff changes. I don't think we hit on a Dabo with Manny and I don't really wanna find out haha, but the argument really comes...

24/7 where'd you get yours?

36,27,10 remember Clemson had a top 5 or so class pre Dabo as HC (when randy had his top class). look its oaky to admit that yes Clemson was patient with Dabo as he began. it wont work here with our fanbase which is fine. im over Manny and I think the results will take care of that. I don't...

He’s really counting the first three full seasons.

How are you done when everyone just threw what you said back at you. You’re using dabos entire career to judge his first three years. At that moment ne was a coach that got clowned out of the orange bowl. This isn’t to say manny is dabo Bc he isn’t, tho this year isn’t helping dabos pure...

after year 3 Dabo had zero rings. Im sure no one thought the school that created clemsoning would have 2 rings w him at that point

9-5 6-7 10-4 dabos first three. manny is 6-7 8-3 and if he wins out w an acccg 10-4. quite close

He won’t. You know that. He shouldn’t either but they have shown that they have really stunk w some evals w is shocking