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Both dude... DL and LB too.

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I agree ND won't blow us out like the Tigers did. Still it sickens me how disciplined the Doomers are... I don't think we could run on them much at all... leaving King and Co. with a lot to compensate with. They've always had beasts on the line and they seem to be well coached. I would love to...

Ok remove kill and insert beat if it makes you feel better. Look if you've followed my posting history there isn't a bigger Doomer hater than me... I deplore the ******* ********. But I also try to be objective... I believe that ND can beat us this year, hypothetical but so is Vegas... how would...

As much as it pains me to say it... ND would kill us this year. They are a big disciplined team that dominate the trenches and has few weaknesses. The ND vs Clemson game will be interesting, but I would guess ND would be at least a 5 point dog.