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Whatever brother. You are clearly right, just like my wife is always right. Easier that way.

Those are all January 2012 comments. You made me go back with your **** stubbornness and now I spent the past two hours reviewing the history. Regretfully, very little on this board in the early days of his commitment. And nothing on Google. But I happened to belong to Shadow's board back then...

Relly, I'm not saying my memory is 100%, but I distinctly remember us offering Flowers before he blew up. I'm not going to do any more research though. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

https://www.canesinsight.com/threads/2012-recruiting-thread.1526/#post-32554

We offered when he was a 3 star prior to his senior year. He was a consensus 4 star later in the cycle. My point was we got in early and identified a talent before the rest. ... There are plenty of examples, if you disagree on Flowers. IMO, our issue is less proper evals (though we have had...

:100: I still don't think Patke deserves a field role. But I like all the rest at this point. It's not Saban's staff, and Manny isn't Saban. But they're learning and getting better. We're a mature enough operation now that we can exploit success on Saturdays to close Top 5-10 classes every...

We've had some great evals (Flowers was a 3-star, Rousseau a 2-star). But you are right that we've had some bad ones, too. LB is especially suspect from an eval perspective. I think the bigger problem is that our recruiting board is too thin, and when guys pass on us, we don't have a 1a ready...