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No sh*t he actually had a 1st rounder at de acrosss from him and was going against NFL Tackles. He played good for us...he was in the backfield a sh*t ton and had a good number of tfl's. I dont think nfl scouts would consider it a true "dip"..especially considering he worked over top 3 rd nfl...

conference strength? ACC is right up there iwth talent. Roche likely went agaist 2 first rd tackles or 2nd rd level tackles at worst

I dont think at worst Rhule at Panthers let Roche gets pass carolina in the 3rd round. **** he recruited him to Temple and his staff is coaching him at SR BOWL. Roche likely has played himself up to 2nd round. Weighed in at 6'3 -245. Likely can be around 250s for pro day. He did work against...