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If you can remember i was one on the board that said Herbert was a project and i wasnt that high on him and didnt expect starting ability until year 3 or so...and i was probably the one that saw him the most on board live.

Thats the general personality traits of a good "recruiter". Hence why i always get on the Rumphs and "what was he to do "crowd. You put in that work you will bear fruit.