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    Both things can be true. He can be a fall down drunk and fried meth head and still be a hateful individual that had an effect on his offspring. In fact, many of the most traumatic childhoods involved some kind of substance abuse. I would be shocked if a kid coming out of this household...
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    And there it is. Vilifying an entire class of people based on your opinions. Your thoughts on what the *** community represents is not an accurate representation of what they are. But you can't see that because you are too far gone and fed too much bull****. If you see things that bother...
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    I would also point out that the twitter guy you are linking to is engaging in exactly the kind of behavior that is a problem. He is going after the military veteran that stopped the shooting. Rather than praise him for the heroic actions that saved lives, he is questioning why he was there...
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    I think you are naïve if you think an LGBTQ shooter can't be hateful towards the LGBTQ community. Get a load of this guys father. A person who is LGBTQ raised in this environment is going to be seriously conflicted with self-loathing. Some might excape relatively unharmed but some react by...
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    And like I said, I don't watch MSNBC or any other cable news. I actually agree with you that no one should be jumping to conclusions until the facts get out. Even now, I am not saying that we know what happened. I am simply addressing the two arguments being offered on this board and pointing...
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    For me, the act of killing a group of people is hateful so by default I assume hate is involved somewhere in the mix. Could he be just choosing a random group of people that just happened to be in a *** night club? I guess. But the time and place sure seems to point to the fact that he...
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    If you are accusing me of being more modern minded than my generation, I will take that as a compliment.
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    I don't watch either but thanks for your concern. It is just pretty typical of the way people get dismissed around here. If you don't agree with someone just accuse them of being brainwashed.
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    So I see there are competing narratives now Option A: Killer was a right winger who hated LGBTQ Option B: Killer was an LGBTQ that hated themselves. Everyone seems to think these two options are diametrically opposed. They are not. In fact, they stem from the same underlying problem. Did...
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