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I think it's apples to oranges. Our QB's got better and he called good games, he just didn't have the talent we do now. Look, I'd prefer someone like Kingsberry who will need to repair his reputation. We get Cliff and he's here for at least 3 seasons.

I did watch him. Every game. I think you're conflating the loser HC with his group. If you look back at his time here, our QB's developed and got better and the play calling was solid and went with the flow of the game. He would crush the ACC with the talent here.

Never understood the anti-Fish sentiment around here with some. He's the best OC we've had in a loooooooooonnnggg time! I'd love it if he came back!

We are in a different position though if we go with a fired coach. We don't have to "replace" our OC, so, for instance, if Kingsbury were to take our OC spot, that would work for us and we could let recruits and current players know right away that we're committed to succeeding and doing it as...