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Sure but the team still beat a top 20 NC state, even with manny. Who have we lost to this season that is as bad as our last 4 games ? Our losses are to Alabama, a top 10 Michigan state, and two close ones with solid ACC teams. And that Virginia one may as well have been a win

I believe this team is capable to finish 8-5. We lose to Pitt, then win out. With 7 season wins we will have an easy bowl game, so we win that too, because we don’t have anyone important leaving to NFL.