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Chise - you're one of the best posters here, you know your sh*t, and your posts are f'ing hilarious. I'm not trying to get you say "you win" or battle with you. If you or anyone say something happens all the time - I expect to see examples and may challenge them on it. But it's just...

You're still not even in the same ballpark for a guy listed at 6-1 Antonio Brown - 5-10, 186 TY Hilton - 5-9, 183 Santana Moss - 5-10, 185 All these guys are similar size Travis Benjamin - 5-10, 172. I don't consider him to be the a similar size to any of the 3 above Mark Pope - 6-1, 172...

If you say these things happen all the time: - 6' 170 lb WR's dominate college all the time - Miami players transform their bodies before the NFL Combine You shouldn't have to dig, you should be able to provide 2 or 3 examples off the top of your head. At least 1. If Pope is 170 at 5-10...

No need to do anything except think of the top of your head here If I asked you name some good 170 lb WR's over the last 10-20 years - you could probably give me 4-5 off the top of your head pretty quick, right? I could do the same But when it's 170 lb WR's over 6 foot it's a blank, right...

I totally agree with everything you said. But same question to you I asked @The Franchise Who are the most dominant 6'1 170 lb WR's at the college level (regardless on NFL performance) you can name outside of the 6-7 that have already been named?

Because of the BEST ones I listed, no one named them outside of Devonta Smith. And before we even got to 6-1 Devonta Smith, people used these guys as a comparison 5-11 DeSean Jackson 5-10 Travis Benjamin 5-10 Santana Moss 5-8 Sinorice Moss 5-9 Tutu Atwell 6-1 Lamar Thomas - @Tetragrammaton...

Mentioning all these 5-10 or 5-9 guys in comparison to a 6-1 guy is irrelevant. That 3 to 4 inches makes a huge difference in body and what you'd expect their weight to be. It's a completely different body type. Let me help everyone out here - Here's the best WR's 6-0+ and 182 lbs or less in...

I think this is something that sounds like it makes sense that it happens often - but doesn't actually happen very often. Here's our last 5 WR's where I could find their Miami bio past their Freshman year (just by doing a quick Google search) No one changed more than 1 inch and 5 lbs. If...

Julio Jones 6-3 & 220 lbs Amari Cooper 6-1 & 211 lbs Do you consider them to be similar size? Because they're closer in size than Pope & Greene are I'm not talking about playing in the NFL, I'm just talking about getting invited to the combine. If these Miami WR's can get invited to the...

I'm very much in the middle here. I think you make great points, and while I have a different opinion, I don't strongly disagree with anything you're saying. IMO the NFL Combine isn't the end all be all, and I agree people can put too much stock in it. But it's the only verified...

If you shaved Pope down to 5-11 it doesn't make a difference. It's still a very rare body type in football. In the last 20 years of the NFL combine: - 17% of WR's 5-10 or smaller weighed 175 or less (26 out of 154) - 2% of WR's 5-11 to 6-0 weighed 175 or less (6 out of 269) I definitely...

I'd say there's been way more WR's in the 6-3 220+ range that have hit big than WR's under 6'0" at any weight the last 20 years: Calvin Johnson Larry Fitzgerald Julio Jones Mike Evans Demariyus Thomas Brandon Marshall Vincent Jackson Plaxico Burress DK Metcalf

Santana 5-10 184 Sinorice 5-8 185 Noticeably smaller & more compact/heavier. @Tetragrammaton Cane mentioned Lamar Thomas who was 6-1 175 lbs, but that was almost 30 years ago - which shows how uncommon this body type is Here's Miami WR's height/weight at the combine since 2000 (not sure...

I see both sides here. A WR can put up big college numbers at under 175 lbs - no question. Travis Benjamin & Roscoe Parrish are great examples. But yes - most sub 175 lb players (at any position) are also sub 6 ft. It's legit to say a 6'1" 170 lb body type is a concern, because that body...