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8-12 is probably peak for Mario. He finished top 10 once in 4 years with Herbert as his QB for 2 of those years. Teams that win national titles have the talent and have the coaching from top to bottom.

I myself would be happy if we were in the discussion of even getting to a playoff, a consistent top 8-12 team.

We only critique our own classes, have you ever taken 2 or 3 top 10 to 15 teams in critiqued their blue chip success rate to ours, the amount of players drafted to ours, etc.? I would guess it is pretty similar to our success/miss rates over the past 17-18 years. Too many of you think that we...