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Fair enough. Miami had so many problems at that point, I wouldn't judge him either way. I don't think the oline was an indictment of him in 05 and 06 as much as it was Coker in general.

Mario doesn't really have a track record of TE's. Sorry but the only TE's that really count are the ones on the roster. Our staff has nothing to do with Franks, Shockey, Graham, Olsen, Winslow, etc. The logic of that doesn't really hold up. Why not just give Saban credit for Ozzie Newsome?

Maybe he beats them out. You never know. The cream always rises to the top.

Ok, so if he's not any good, why would you want him? You sound like the guy that sits around telling girls you'll treat them right, while they are only interested in the guy they are with.