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i agree, but are we closer to fixing it, i think we are, i think the frustration is that we're not fixing it fast enough ...

8-2 is not an accomplishment coming off of 6-7 with losses to fiu and la tech ... is your using pre/early 2000 metrics i understand why you may feel that way ... if so, you didn't watch the previous years of canes football

recency bias ... we have holes, and we looked terrible on saturday ... but we were 6-7 last year, are you saying we're worse this year?

don't say this ... it's excuse making ... but in real talk, saturday sucked ... but to trash our guys despite our accomplishments in this climate are crazy ... many lost equity saturday, the staff has to coach for the life during bowl prep

fiu and la tech ... secondly, you make an argument for manny, he saw we needed to upgrade our qb position and he did ... saturday was trash, but last year we were 6-7 ... i was hoping by monday us men would come back to the numbers ... 770 sucks, but it's still 8-2 ... we learn alot next game

no excuses, but it's monday so as grown men we should be able to talk straight ... we lost to fiu and la tech last year ... we beat everyone on our schedule except two teams ... recent bias aside, he's done alot more good than bad

no excuses for manny, but we've dealt with alot behind the scenes as others have pointed out ... i can see how we were riding high on emotions and then got punch in our **** and lost the wind in our sails ... also, we're 8-2