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I mean some coach may have some "5 year plan" to win the ACC. I have no idea what these guys say in their interviews. But I wouldn't hire a coach that doesn't believe winning the ACC coastal and competing for ACC championships should be an annual thing.

Yeah just like it should be. I think the coach will have that realistic expectation too so if it doesn't happen he'll be as disappointed as we are.

I don't want a coach that doesn't think they can come in here and dominate the ACC coastal