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I agree but you have to remember who the hc was then.and see that was the beginning of our slide.chud and coker clashed over the offense in 03 so chud bailed and went to Cleveland.to understand what I'm talking about watch okst offense from 84-88.coker was the oc and the similarities between...

you forget we lost at va tech as well.remember the te dropped the fake punt pass in the endzone.

The 2003 team wasn't in the same class as 2001 or 2002 team.Berlin was a decent qb but he wasn't game managing qb dorsey was no r like the other nc qbs we've had.

Like chud for those gripping on him.what has the team looked like since he left.