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Kind of, yes. Think about it. Do you think we lose to FIU, LaTech, or any of those other games with TVD lighting them up? I don't. We lost to a horrific FSU team with the hottest QB we've ever had. That's pretty **** bad. Losing games with Jarren Williams should have been expected. Losing...

Perhaps, but TVD getting in there and us looking like a different team meant something. The FSU loss showed everyone that even with the hottest QB in college football, Manny still found a way to lose. That was a giant nail that wasn't ever coming out of his coffin.

I can't remember which poster laughed at me for saying Manny would get fired if he won every game but the FSU game. I do believe that winning out would have saved his job, but that FSU loss was just so bad, so unforgivable, that he couldn't survive it. It brought into question all the close...