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A close game and ND should get the nod over A&M. Remember how badly Alabama beat A&M? It was uuuuugly. Now, if THIS keeps up, I think A&M deserves it over ND.

More than phoney and lucky, we showed how bad a team can look when they play unfocused, uninspired, undisciplined, and well, just don't play at all.

Barry Sanders was the best I ever saw at this level.

ND also struggled against FSU, the team we mauled. They also put 12 points on that pathetic UL D. ND got **** lucky in getting the Crippled Tigers.

My point is that while Clemson did indeed whoop us, tell me again what Alabama did to A&M. Had we looked impressive and won out, what claim would A&M have over us? That Alabama/A&M game was over at halftime, while we still had some hope in the 3rd at Clemson. Also, ND was getting the rematch...

It never was. The problem was struggling against average teams, then getting mauled by UNC. Just think. Had we only lost the Clemson game, but won out and looked impressive, we would have a **** shot right now.

Weird how ND looks as bad as we did against a full strength Clemson team. They are frauds.

I just can not want ND to win a game, much less an ACC title. I can't stand Clemson, and sure it would be funny if they lost, but I will not pull for ND.