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I'm saying upside means jack crap when that upside is not even close to being reached. I'd kick them all off the **** team. I can see why Williams and Perry couldn't beat out Rosier, though. Yeah, Rosier was putrid as a QB. Williams and Perry are no better. More upside, but too **** busy...

Didn't see that, but it's nice to know someone that knows more than me agrees.

Man, I railed against Enos all year, and I hated the hire. That being said, discipline comes from the top. Our team lacks discipline and mental toughness. That's all on the head coach. HE is the one that sets the tone and gives the coordinators talent to work with. I actually felt bad for...

Because upside means NOTHING if they don't work hard enough to reach it. I'll take a guy with a lower ceiling that is actually working hard to reach it over guys with higher ceilings but no work ethic to get there. The guy with the lower ceiling will actually be the better player.