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8-4 with this returning cast should get him gutted on the spot. This ain’t Boston College. 8-4 after having been here for 6 years is an abomination. ****, even BC has standards.

Resigned as interim HC is not semantics when you claimed he got fired as DC.

LOL at the dopey Manure water boys, like GoManny!, clinging to this YPP stat like Linus holding that blue blanket. They’ll have themselves convinced Manure’s floor is Sabag’s ceiling soon enough.

Dillon was good that game but it’s not like he killed us. I think he was under 5 yards per carry. Diaz got whipped by a horrible OC, Scott Loeffler, who came out slinging it when Diaz was clearly thinking they would run every down. They also mixed in some trick plays that were wide open, and...

Good point. Sam Howell only threw for 223 yards on us this year. We held him under his season average, and only one team held him to less (Notre Dame). In the stat world, that's a win Miami.

He had a lot more problems than that one game. No one's perfect, and he's a pretty good DC overall. But there are clunkers all over his resume.

Correct. And I warned before the 2020 season that our D would take a step back when everyone was saying all we needed was a better O because Manure's D was championship level. Most of the time, when you tweak your offense to be more high-octane and uptempo the defense will suffer. The top...

Football doesn't work that way. Our fans bent on analyzing stats spent the end of 2019 talking about how all we needed was a good offense because Manure's D was championship level. Well, we got the good offense, and the results stayed about the same. We won some dog fights with ****** ACC teams...

I’m happy about the hires too. And LCE even said Robinson will likely be here a year. So we’re all happy with the hires. It’s show me time though.

Do you think he brought the previous guys here to fail? And how much do you really think he’s open to changing his ideas on D when he kept Blank and Patke on staff and made himself playcaller? Everyone is clearly entitled to look at things the way they choose. However, some of you guys have...

And some people are not always looking to be convinced by authority figures. Some of us enjoy a good hearty discussion where you put your argument out there and defend it instead of just saying, “Lance said Manure is elite at YPP, so that settles it.” There are plenty of things to discuss after...

Lance is a mountain of a man, but what he showed us was that Manure has been excellent for the most part giving up YPP. That’s it. Nothing more. Nothing less. There are guys who see that stat as the end all be all in football, and there are those who don’t. It’s been a great discussion topic...

Throw Clemson in there too because Kelly Bryant was trash, and he set a personal record on Manure. Might have been a Clemson record too that he set.

Hire many times did they score 62 and never punt and gain 600 yards rushing? And how many of those teams in the playoffs were 4 loss teams? I’ve been saying for a couple years it’s an offensive game now. I was saying that when the cis brain trust was still pounding the “defense wins...

No. We’re coming to conclusions based on what we observe. Not sure where all this emotional attribution comes from, but football is a pretty simple game. Stat guys attempt to make it more complicated than it is by conjuring stats that attempt to refute what we actually see. PFF does it all the...

You act like the criticism of Manure is unwarranted and we're stretching for things to be critical of. He's a game removed from the worst woodshed whipping in UM history, and he's done nothing of note on the field in 2 years other than accumulate several of the worst losses in UM history.

It's just more wishful thinking. It's understandable because we've had nothing to be excited about in almost 20 years. So every time a failing coach makes changes, we hear the same stuff about how these are the guys he's going to listen to and how the prior guys were just mummies. He hired those...

He had a subpar game based on his stats against MAC teams. Of course, a marquee P5 program should do better against him than MAC teams did. But he still played very well against us. This is why focusing on stats fails.

I was right about that too, jealous **** face. Now wipe my poo off your nose and run along.

These guys get duped by numbers. They think these numbers that are based on all kinds of subjective input are the same as pure math. They see 2 plus 2 equals 4 when they see stats. When I see stats, I always think "Lies. **** lies. And statistics." Any skilled data guy can turn football numbers...