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You have no idea if they're close or not, but the facts certainly seem to indicate that they are given Manure hiring him at two spots. And if they weren't all that close, then Baker would be gone already because he's been an abysmal failure. You don't give up 800 yards and 65 points and keep...

What does UM's alum base of coaches have to do with Manure and Baker? How do you know they didn't continue their friendship? I remember reading where Baker said he used to call Manure for advice when he was the DC at La Tech. And I never mentioned a **** thing about nepotism. Nepotism has...

So they stopped knowing each other between 2014 and 2019? They only knew each other while they worked on the same staffs? No chance they stayed in contact the whole time between 2011 and now and built a really strong friendship?

Pop the bottles! That means Baker is gone.