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Middle Tennessee was rock bottom. Duke and FSU are relapses. If you know, you know.

USCw, twice. A bad period between the end of John Robinson’s first tour early 80s until Pete Carroll. The post-Carroll until now with Lincoln Riley, or so it seems so far. The Trojans had some decent seasons while down - Clay Helton won a Rose Bowl - but it can be done.

Nah. 24-13….

TVD would be making a terrible decision if he came back. He needs to have an NFL evaluation, and then transfer to a school with a quality QC who needs an experienced QB. Could even be a G5 school. The NFL is going to give him a poor draft grade. Even more so post-injury.

84 point swing in two seasons. Quite a feat.

Butch’s 5-6 2007 team beats the 2022 Canes by three…..touchdowns

Would love to be a fly on the wall if Mario bent the ear of Butch and Jimmy. Yes, both were from our dreaded past, but do you think they’d privately say ‘stay the course’ or would they say he needs to adapt his thinking and look around CFB as it is today.

Maybe they see immediate playing opportunity, day one, practice one, and believe they can be part of the class to return the program to glory. Joining a championship team is easy.

Yes, and I think everyone agrees, no?

Well, FWIW, Arroyo has done poor at UNLV, although they are 4-5 this season after 2-16 in 2020-21. The program is used to 2-3-4 win seasons forever. Not sure why some programs bother to continue. Morehead, 1-8 in his first at Akron, but the Zips have been awful for well over a decade. Almost...

Which part of Mario’s coaching history? At Oregon? He never has this situation at Oregon. Two of his OCs and one DC took HC promotions at other programs. It remains to be seen how Mario handles adversity.

Out: Gattis, Addae, Ponce, Feld.