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Yes, but they respected Butch. He was with JJ at Miami and the NFL. Has NC and SB rings. The smart ones knew Butch was building a NC-caliber team and developing many of them into NFL players. They accepted the hard-*** part because they trusted it was for their own good. We’ve all seen coaches...

Agreed, but yelling and screaming can get old fast. My biggest issue with Manny was managing the starting lineup. Starting Patchan over GR15 was ridiculous. Patchan had reached his low ceiling, and GR15's potential was obvious.

Yes, he did.

My reference to King was not to imply he was groomed by Manny. My point was King has those qualities and the roster has lacked real leaders for a long time., But you're correct, Manny needs to recognize leadership potential in recruits and provide an environment for those skills to develop...

In the end a coach needs respect to get his roster to buy into the program. Tony Dungy may have been a ‘nice guy’ to the media, but was demanding in the locker room and film room. He didn’t need to yell and scream. Warren Sapp had so much respect for him he was afraid to disappoint him. Bill...