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I agree with some of your points, but look at what those weapons did at other places. The Thomas's did squat anywhere else they have been.

I would count Clark as a product of the system and Peyton TBH, but yes he did have those studs from the U playing with him and that goes to my main points you need a good running game and good defense plus a QB who can win with his arm and has high football IQ.

Just found another one Russel Wilson won a super bowl within two years.

Just in Marino also took his team to the super bowl within two years.

Nobody once in this thread has said a single word about Tannehill, we know why the Titans won.

I'll do more research on it but to start Montana was drafted in 79 and won in 81. We'll start there.

This is like saying we had 500 yards of offense against UNC and still only scored 21.

I'm not worried about it. Mark Brunell lit up the Dolphins just as bad.

Good for him, I guess we'll find out who ends up with the better career. My money would be on Peyton.

I don't really care tbh. You compared him to a hall of famer and we don't know yet if LJ will be. In the NFL to win a championship you have to run the ball to a degree, play good defense and have a QB who can win the game with his arm. It is what it is.

True post.

Went 13-3 in year two.

Russel Wilson is still a pocket guy, this debate happens over and over. Yes he scrambles and makes plays, but he is a pocket passer.

He also has two super bowl rings, stop.

I'm glad we went to a spread with the way the college game is, but it is proven every single year in the NFL that you cannot win a super bowl without good defense and a QB who wins from the pocket and with his arm.