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You're both getting caught up in one thing. I'm not saying how good they would be, NFL draft pick, all-conference, or whatever. It was said that Dabo / Ven couldn't do a thing with them. I disagree. They would most certainly be better than we're showing them to be. This Manny Diaz defense...

Yup. Want to look like *** at linebacker, come on down. DL is also questionable though, but scouts love TFL and sacks. We do well there, but they're certainly no help to our linebackers.

Yes, I think there's the possibility that Dabo / Venable's turns them into better players than what we've seen. Players that could start. They're some of the best at developing 3 star players into good to great college players. There is nothing friendly about how we use our linebackers. They...

LB'ers aren't the problem, it's Manny's defense.