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  1. Salt

    Off-Topic When you die . . .

    Thanks for taking time to reply. Silt? Clever. You are obviously still very defensive for someone so self assured of their beliefs. I have touched a nerve obviously. Don’t get angry at me for pointing out inconsistencies in your moral reasoning. I never claimed to be representative of God on...
  2. Salt

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    That’s fine, Mainland. It is informative to me to see why people hold the views they do even if they really can’t defend them when pressed. Your reaction is par for the course and typical of someone who hasn’t really thought through what holds up their world view. Thin air is not a good...
  3. Salt

    Off-Topic When you die . . .

    As long as they are beheading deplorables they may be ok with it.
  4. Salt

    Off-Topic When you die . . .

    Well, I am not Mainland, but I think he does believe in goodness but doesn’t have a very good foundation for it. His foundation seems to be good is whatever the majority decides which is kind of scary when you think historically what that has looked like in Mao’s China, Lenin’s Russia, or...
  5. Salt

    Off-Topic When you die . . .

    Because as you mentioned there is good and evil and there is something transcendent about it. But now you seem to be saying what is good or bad should be based on what you are repulsed or not by? That is a subjective basis . That is not transcendent. You think what is good and bad should be...
  6. Salt

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    So if society determines good and evil how does that work with my hypothetical mullahs? They live under Sharia law which determines what is good and bad and their society accepts it as divine law. Our society obviously has a different tradition and beliefs. Would we have a right to judge...
  7. Salt

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    I know where Maher is coming from and I don’t agree with his position on this. But he seems pretty tight with Ben Shapiro (they have been on each other’s show) who is an Orthodox J e w. That’s pretty funny in its own right.
  8. Salt

    Off-Topic When you die . . .

    Bill Maher is a satirist by trade. Therefore I would not take anything he says seriously. He's entitled to make a living doing what he does. I would not typically go to him for sage advice on the purpose and meaning of life unless I wanted a laugh.
  9. Salt

    Off-Topic When you die . . .

    So based on the above you seem to imply there is some transcendent standard of good and evil. Interesting. I agree. And that should tell you something. Let's just say if there is no transcendent basis for morality where would it come from? From a strict atheistic evolutionary framework , let's...
  10. Salt

    Off-Topic When you die . . .

    You have no idea what happens or doesn't happen after death but you are **** SURE it's ABSOLUTELY not any of the above That is quite a leap from humility to hubris there, friend.
  11. Salt

    Off-Topic When you die . . .

    Yes, of course, endless possibilities. But all we have is what is the actual that can be measured and observed so it's a good a place to start as any. The universe likely began to exist about 14 billion years ago. It hasn't been around forever as far as we know and will eventually cease as we...
  12. Salt

    Off-Topic When you die . . .

    Death and birth are very much part of our understanding of the laws of physics. Things begin and end. The question is if this process can continue ad infinitum as suggested by your expanding and crunching universe. And if I understand correctly it is dark matter that will lead to the crunch...
  13. Salt

    Off-Topic When you die . . .

    For those of you that just envision bleakness and darkness as where we are going I would like to ask you where did you even begin? And for you smart alecks out there I don't mean your mother's womb (that's in another thread). To think it all ends in nothing doesn't explain how it all started...
  14. Salt

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    Possible, but this cyclical model has been discarded by cosmologists because the energy for the universe to rebound will eventually run it's course. Kind of like a ball bouncing. Each time it bounces it loses energy. The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. So from that one may surmise the process of...
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