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That makes it even more ridiculous

Not at UM they weren't....

And keep in mind...from 84-88 Butch was not only JJs Ace recruiter...but his closer sort of speak....God only knows the amount of talent Butch is either solely responsible for..or at the least partially responsible for during his days at UM....Luck only gets you so much....it certainly doesn't...

Luck my ***....Younger Cane fans will never understand how hard the staff (95-2000) worked and recruited amidst unparalleled and insurmountable odds...It was waayyyy more recruiting and evaluating excellence vs Luck....

That's not happening....

Dice sold out Cleveland Stadium....75,000+ telling Dirty Nursery Rhymes....Lol

As Sick as they were....Nate was Sicker....

Yeah...because Morgan (who was better than Ray at UM) wasn't a Butch recruit.....Shame on Butch for finding the best LBer in UM History....

Talk about being a Cane Fan, and not knowing Ray was an Erickson recruit....smfh

Butch didn't recruit Ray....Ray was a Erickson commit....