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Bottomline is...they both were not only awful recruiters...but it was magnified even more by being spoiled from 98 till 01 in regards to talent evaluation....

I watched Ryan in HS here in Orlando....Thought he'd be an AA....

This....the second the last of Butchs kids left after the 04 season, the downward spiral began....and to be honest, the downward recruiting spiral began in 03....

Lol at Radio a Great recruiter....and was overrated as a DC.....His same ole same ole Cover 2 was abused the last half of his DC tenure...

His 08 Class was terribly overrated and terribly LBer Top heavy....he shunned every school not named MNW and Booker T in ref to recruiting, which hurt us for yrs to come....

Onion was a Great recruiter??....In what F-ing World??