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Huh? I’m not getting ur point.

Bro that’s an excellent point, one that I totally neglected. We’ve used that as an excuse for yrs, as well. Yet, Saban has bled through his coaching staff, and nothing changes.

No stars: 2009 - Rashad Johnson (3rd round) 2010 - Mike Johnson (3rd round) 2010 - Marquis Johnson (7th round) 3 stars: 2009 - Glenn Coffee (3rd round) 2009 - Antoine Caldwell 3rd round) 2010 - Kareem Jackson (1st round) 2010 - Javier Arenas (2nd round) 2010 - Terrance Cody (2nd round) 2010 -...

Again, nvm...carry on I’ve already stated what took place, and the 02-03 season was a microcosm. EVERYBODY & their mama’s mama know what took place & the devolution of The U. Talent wasn’t the problem; once the infrastructure that BUTCH MF’N DAVIS built w/ HIS recruits started leaving.....u...

Butch left before 01’ & did u forget that the 00 team was robbed?? Nvm....carry on.

Not really, b/c talent stayed w/ Coker. We recruited very well under him. The problem is once the guys Butch coached up left, the coaching & lack of development was on full display.

My response to DTP is right above this post.

In the case of any recruits, it’s no different than a NFL draft pick, some guys just don’t pan out. Some kids are blue chips b/c they really are blue chips, while some are blue chips b/c of their “potential” or they are just so much better than their level of competition. However, come college...

OK, so basically ur saying the reason y Bama has so many draft picks is not necessarily due to “development” v. the shear amount of blue chips coming through, correct? Yet, no one mentions the blue chip flops which will give credence to a theory that maybe they are not developing that well...

Was McCloud a better LB before or after Manny tweaked the defense? Wasn’t he apart of the “New Bermuda Triangle?” And it can be argued Shaq nor Pinckney became difference makers or made an improvement from Freshman through Senior years.

I wholeheartedly disagree w/ this, respectfully. There’s always guys who have god-given talent where u just give them a ball & field, & they are going to ball no matter what school or who the coach is. But “development” is an all encompassing word. A guy can have all the instincts in the...

Imo, this is a chicken or egg situation. Is Saban getting the top recruits b/c he’s a good coach & developer or is Saban a good coach b/c of the top recruits he get? Imo, it’s the 1st & not the latter. I’m in no way discounting getting top recruits; of course u need the ingredients. But what...

Bro, I think U’re just hating on Saban right now. Peep: Saban’s first full recruiting class was the class of ‘08. Since that time, Bama has been in the Top-10 all 14 yrs. But what if I were tell you UGA is 2nd? UGA has had a top 10 class in 12 of the last 14 classes. What if I were tell you...

Saban, since 2008, have recruited 289 blue chip players (4 - 5 stars). It’s an ungodly amount of talent that’s been recruited there. Like, it’s not even close. From what I understand, from ppl I’ve talked to whose family have attended Bama or currently enrolled there is that Bama 2021 is like...