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for the ivies, (speaking of Yale), it's "Yes, BUT ..." the coaches get a certain number of "tips" (admissions pulls) each year. they can't waste them on kids who won't contribute to the success of the team. the kids you are talking about are more akin to "preferred walk ons." they do get...

my head coach ... and he hired me before graduate school to coach QB's. great man, and happy yo had the pleasure and honor of meeting him.

I'm pretty active with Yale, (sit on one of the boards) and involved with interviewing kids and meeting with prospective families. I can tell you the process is beyond rough. It's horrifically difficult (for non-athletes) to get in. even with all the support. Acceptance rate at Yale this year...

I will pipe in here with this: Yes, it was more just a couple years ago BUT .... among my teammates at Yale, the average SAT score was within, maybe 40-50 points of the rest of the student body. The average for Yale at the time was around 1510 (different era than today) ... and average for...