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None taken. I was just using them as an example to prove that you cant judge a team off 1-2 years. You need to look at the bigger picture. But yes we really arent arguing anything I just expect more out of a power 5 team with tons of advantages to do better then staggering into the tournament.

You asked how many ACC teams have a current streak of 3 NCAAT appearances. I brought up the fact that Syracuse and UL both have a shorter streak, but are clearly the better programs which throws a wrench in your theory. It seemed like you where insinuating that was the most important metric. We...

I haven't used hyperbole once in our conversation. My point is that how many NCAAT bids you get over a certain time period is more important than how many you received in a row. I brought UL up beacuse it proves my point. We have a current streak of 2 NCAAT appearances, they have 1. So using the...

No because you edited it after I quoted it. Do you expect me to reread your intial post in hopes that you would have edited it? After reading your edit I agree. I am not calling for Ls head and I am happy that he has raised the bar. That doesn't mean we should be happy with our current success...

Because we haven't even made the tournament this year yet. The ACC numbers don't change it will still be 5. Overall it drops to 25, but of those 9 teams 6 have as good a chance(if not better) to make the tournament as Miami. Active NCAAT streaks isnt a good indicator of success though. Lousville...

Over the past 6 years we have made the tourney 3 times. So we are on pace for 1 every 2 years. 34 teams currently have 2 year NCAAT streaks. There are 5 ACC teams with streaks of 2 NCAAT or longer. I don't really see your point. Yes, that puts us right outside the to 10% of the league, but Miami...

This is why I laugh when Canes fans are content with making the tournament every other year.

There is no precedent for it. He is probably looking at Ls track record. He had 3 potential 1 and dones Huell, Brown, Walker. Huell may end up not even making the NBA. Brown may have to wait till Junior year and Lonnie may drop out of a lottery pick. I hope he comes here of course, but that is...

Yup, UNC is know the 4 year elite school.