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Well then we have a long way to go this year then, no disrespect to FSU I just feel like Clemson is the standard in the conference that we have to work to get better than if we really want to be among the big boys on college football

Are they better than us in the trenches and overall defense, I don't think so and I don't give a *** about them I'm trying to get to and be better than Clemson.

Good that means time to get Norvell an extension

Exactly what I'm saying UNC hasn't played a physical team like us on both sides of the ball, we should wear them down and run away with it in the 2nd half