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I'm just explaining why each coach's tenure lasted as it did. I'm not advocating for any of these coaches. I didn't say they turned things around. I said it looked liked they did. From an administration perspective, you're not going to fire Shannon or Golden after winning 9 games. When the...

I agree. Manny needs to establish a disciplined winning culture. Win 10+ games consistently and show well in the ACC title game and this thing can turn quickly. Our offensive line will be really good in 2021 with a bunch of experienced veterans plus Rivers and Walker will be in their 2nd...

Agreed. I was just trying to break down how we got to where we are. A lot of people complaining about the hires and that they stayed too long. That wasn't the case with the exception of retaining Golden after going 6-7. So, one year out of 15 could have been handled differently. IDK who the...

Well, that's to be expected after going 6-7. We need a great season with 11-3/12-2 (including a bowl win) type of season displaying an explosive offense to show recruits we're competitive with the top programs. It's a high bar, but it's what we need to make some noise with top recruits. We...

I agree with most of what you said. Golden and Shannon were tenured too long, but there are reasons why. Shannon coached 4 years from 2007-2010. In his first 3 years he went 5-7, 7-6, and 9-4. So, after his 3rd season, you think he has the program turned around, but then in 2010 the team...

You disagree, but provide no answers. Just that our AD and athletic administration is bad. Ok.

Just tske a look around. There's only a handful of coaches that are killing it. The question is what coaches didn't we get in any of the hires we've had in the past 5 coaches? IMO, most of college football has mediocre coaches. I think you put too much weight on the AD. They pick 1 coach...

I completely agree with getting the head coach right. I just don't know that we wind up any different than we are now. Hindsight is 20/20. Randy Shannon and Al Golden could have been the guy and were NOT. Who knew that Dabo Sweeny was going to turn out to be what he is. Clemson took a big...

What does that have to do with the play on tje field or the coaching? You can be angry about coaching hires and perhaps budgets for increased staffing, but that's about it as far as the administration goes. Once the coach is hired, the coach chooses his staff. For the past 10 years, the only...

The problem is the culture. We have enough talent to win. Manny put Swag over substance and the team rewarded him with a 6-7 season. Let's see if he corrects his mistakes. With our weak schedule, 10 wins is the floor for me. You have to beat the teams you're supposed to beat and beat the...

Hopefully we are on the right track. We need production out of our offense. I am confident that Lashlee will bring the same 40+ per game to Miami. What is disturbing to me is the culture in the program last year. The culture as much as the offense cost us games. That is on the head coach...

Agreed. Coaches not winning because of lack of talent is just an excuse. Look at Iowa, Wisconsin, VT, and even UNC (who is getting talent this year). All winning with 3 star talent. In any case, we've had more talant than our division foes for over a decade. So,winning is not based solely...